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McCain/Palin Under Consideration

by feelfree, Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 12:59:34 PM EST

Wow.....wow....I wrote a comment just a few days ago (I'm sure it is HR by now) stating I didn't think the Republicans would do it. I was wrong. I also said I would at least consider McCain if he chose a woman who was pro-choice because it would make him more palatable to a larger group of democratic women. Well I was wrong on that one too. He chose a woman who is pro-life. I am a Democrat is who pro-life. As of today McCain/Palin can consider themselves under consideration for my vote.

I have said before and I will say it again. People come to the process for different reasons. Some women were in it this cycle to support the political aspirations of a woman who was qualified but found the party did not support their efforts. Democratic women have been unsuccessful in building coalitions to support their efforts to get women elected beyond the U.S. Senate.

The Republicans are willing to do what Democrats are unwilling to do; put a woman in the White House as VPOTUS with the long term look at becoming POTUS.

This is change I can believe in.

Tags: democrats, change, feminism, womanism, pro-life, John McCain (all tags)

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Re: McCain/Palin Under Consideration (2.00 / 1)

I suppose this makes sense as long as your definition of "pro-life" does not include any consideration of the "war early and often" position of McCain and, I'm assuming, Palin.

by the mollusk on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 01:01:44 PM EST

Re: McCain/Palin Under Consideration (2.00 / 2)

Do you have any other issues that you consider important? I'm just curious, because a McCain/Palin ticket is antithetical to virtually all stances considered Democratic.

by rfahey22 on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 01:02:01 PM EST

Re: McCain/Palin Under Consideration (none / 0)

Sure other issues are important, but just as democrats were willing to sacrifice the aspirations of democratic women on POTUS and VPOTUS I may be willing to sacrifice those issues to satisfy my hope to see a woman in the White House as VP.

"No self-respecting woman should wish or work for the success of a party that ignores her." - Susan B. Anthony

by feelfree on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 02:28:48 PM EST
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So why should any woman bother to run for office if that's what you feel. You don't care what the woman thinks except for your one issue, where she stands in opposition to most women in the country. So any women who uttered the words 'pro life' would do for you, regardless of anything else. You don't care whether the woman has any qualifications or could stand against another woman running for office, or another man, and in fact get voters to agree with her. that is what hrc did, and this woman did not do. All you need is gender. This is a betrayal of all the efforts of all women to be considered on their merits, becasue this one gets your vote without having any.

by Christy1947 on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 05:54:56 PM EST
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Re: McCain/Palin Under Consideration (none / 0)

Merit? As an Obama supporter you have to be kidding. Merit has had little or no value in this primary. If it was about merit we should have a different Democratic nominee, but I am over that and moving on.

Gender does matter when women are underrepresented or didn't you know that? Gender counts when my party puts race before gender. The party has turned a deaf ear to women. Your voice is being heard, but there are millions of women who feel betrayed by the deaf ear the party as turned on our voices.

"No self-respecting woman should wish or work for the success of a party that ignores her." - Susan B. Anthony

by feelfree on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 06:33:17 PM EST
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Re: McCain/Palin Under Consideration (none / 0)

So you'd support Pamela Anderson for VP if she were with you on your issue? Gender matters up to a point, but you never pick a moron with the right gender or an idiot with a race you like. All women are not created equal with respect to skills, intelligence, honesty, experience, competence and other relevant factors. And in this case, the one you are bitter about in fact ran and got millions of Americans to support her, a really good test of skills, etc., and this new one has done no such thing and would be only too happy to be confused with a Clinton supporter just enough to get her real supporters confused and forget that urgent and massively important difference.

by Christy1947 on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 08:46:59 PM EST
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Re: McCain/Palin Under Consideration (none / 0)

Women like you have doomed democratic women to the inability to have any influence within the party. You keep cowtowing to the tired male point of view that women are bitter when they don't want politics as usual. The good old boys have duped you into believing women only act on emotion......i.e. bitterness. Call it what you want but I am tired of doing the same old politics and getting the same tired results.

I learned the history is clear when it comes to women breaking the glass ceilings in American politics. It has been the Republican women who have been the first. Their party is far more progressive on this issue than Democrats.

"No self-respecting woman should wish or work for the success of a party that ignores her." - Susan B. Anthony

by feelfree on Sat Aug 30, 2008 at 08:07:07 AM EST
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Re: McCain/Palin Under Consideration (2.00 / 4)

The Republicans are willing to do what Democrats are unwilling to do; put a woman in the White House as VPOTUS with the long term look at becoming POTUS.

I know it's pissing into the wind arguing with a McTroll, but we did this 24 years ago when we nominated Ferraro.

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by mistersite on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 01:03:36 PM EST

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But Ferraro was pro-choice.

I'm voting for Saxby Chambliss!

by Jess81 on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 01:13:31 PM EST
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You missed the point. The Republicans can recognize the dissatisfaction of democratic women where Democrats won't.

"No self-respecting woman should wish or work for the success of a party that ignores her." - Susan B. Anthony

by feelfree on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 02:38:13 PM EST
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If your political issues are limited to more women appointees and anti-choice, then I can see no reason why you wouldn't pick McCain this year. I'm sort of wondering why you waited this long: McCain was anti-choice long before he picked Palin. There you go.

I'm voting for Saxby Chambliss!

by Jess81 on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 01:12:44 PM EST

Hooray for ovaries (2.00 / 1)

I love women. They're awesome. I was legitimately torn at the start of the season because I wanted Hillary Clinton to be president while simultaniously wanting Obama's new brand of politics.

I like Palin a lot. She's honest and forthright; if her "scandal" says anything about her, it's that she might be a little overprotective of her family.

But if you think that John McCain, who has voted against women's issues every chance he's gotten, who is apparently ruthlessly calculating about women in his personal life, who wants to limit women's roles in the military and be lenient on unfair gender pay policies, will truly be a good candidate for women overall, then you're deluding yourself.

If you think that Cheney won't pull a Weekend at Bernie's with McCain's corpse if he should fall over dead just to keep a woman with reform cred from the White House, then you're nuts.

Obama/Biden, as a ticket, has a vast array of pro-woman positions and records. Obama is better for pro-lifers than McCain even while being pro-choice, because he actually cares about the issue.

McCain did something important by nominating Palin. That just means that the Republican party has adopted the 1984 Democratic position on women on the ticket. You're going to go for the people that are 24 years behind the times?

I hope you're better than that.

The pebbles have voted and the avalanche has begun.

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by Dracomicron on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 01:13:21 PM EST

Delete (none / 0)

Why doesn't anyone delete these obvious troll diaries?

by Hatch on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 01:19:28 PM EST

Re: McCain/Palin Under Consideration (none / 0)

Maybe you should consider hanging out with your fellow republicans instead of trolling Democratic websites.

"This victory alone is not the change we seek -- it is only the chance for us to make that change." -- Nov. 4, 2008

by BobzCat on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 01:22:47 PM EST

Re: McCain/Palin Under Consideration (none / 0)

Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran!

And so, may evil beware and may good dress warmly and eat lots of fresh vegetables.

by thatpurplestuff on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 01:22:47 PM EST

even in cases of incest and rape (none / 0)

mccain doesnt believe in the right to choose.

by iamold on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 01:26:45 PM EST

TOKENISM (none / 0)

Can anyone say with a straight face that Palin would have gotten picked if she were a man?

Hillary got picked for her strength and accomplishments and because she knew world leaders.

Picking Palin is an insult to me as a woman.

by iamold on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 01:26:56 PM EST

Re: TOKENISM (none / 0)

Palin is probably as qualified as Obama and he is a man.

"No self-respecting woman should wish or work for the success of a party that ignores her." - Susan B. Anthony

by feelfree on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 06:36:30 PM EST
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So you are willing to be pandered to. You are willing to vote for a ticket that is the total antithesis of Hillary and every thing she stood for in the primary and everything she stands for now!

Pro-life, creationist, Strong religious right, buys into the drill here drill now energy policy.

Hillary would be proud of you .... not.

McCain/Palin
A veteran to cut your veteran's benefits.
And a woman to take away your right to choose.

Faced with the choice between changing one's mind and proving that there is no need to do so, almost everyone gets busy on the proof.

by jsfox on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 01:35:45 PM EST

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I am willing to do what it takes to move the issue of women being viable candidates for the White House forward.

I am willing to do whatever it takes to stop this race before gender pandering that prevails in the Democratic Party.

If a takes a Republican woman to get there first to force the Democratic Party to see the light, then so be it.

"No self-respecting woman should wish or work for the success of a party that ignores her." - Susan B. Anthony

by feelfree on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 02:22:18 PM EST
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I think Hillary did that very well, thank you!

And you really don't think the McCain just gender pandered you?

And finally Palin's opinion of Hillary:

and her feelings about Sen. Hillary Clinton. (She said she felt kind of bad she couldn't support a woman, but she didn't like Clinton's "whining.")

http://www.newsweek.com/id/156190

Faced with the choice between changing one's mind and proving that there is no need to do so, almost everyone gets busy on the proof.

by jsfox on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 02:37:36 PM EST
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Did I miss something? Hillary is not the Democratic nominee and neither is she Obama's VP selection.

These are are the DNC and/or Obama's decisions not the Republicans.

"No self-respecting woman should wish or work for the success of a party that ignores her." - Susan B. Anthony

by feelfree on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 03:25:07 PM EST
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Under Consideration? (none / 0)

Gee, you really seem conflicted?

Just go to Redstate, McTroll.

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by IowaMike on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 01:43:35 PM EST

Re: McCain/Palin Under Consideration (none / 0)

You have been attacking the Democratic ticket for a long time. Now you express support for the Republican ticket. Imagine that.

"In the unlikely story that is America, there has never been anything false about hope." -Barack Obama

by blueAZ on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 01:45:10 PM EST

Re: McCain/Palin Under Consideration (none / 0)

Attacking the Democratic ticket? I may have written a cross word or two, but attacking no. That is a figment of your imagination.

"No self-respecting woman should wish or work for the success of a party that ignores her." - Susan B. Anthony

by feelfree on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 03:26:26 PM EST
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Re: McCain/Palin Under Consideration (none / 0)

lol

"In the unlikely story that is America, there has never been anything false about hope." -Barack Obama

by blueAZ on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 04:45:05 PM EST
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The question is do you trust her to conduct business with Ahmadinejad, the Pakistanis, a re-emerging Russia, and so on? If you're so pro-life, maybe you should considered the lives of those whom already roam the Earth.

This administration is not sinking. This administration is soaring! If anything, they are rearranging the deck chairs on the Hindenburg!

by venavena on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 01:49:35 PM EST

Re: McCain/Palin Under Consideration (none / 0)

Why not?

Aren't you willing to trust Obama?

"No self-respecting woman should wish or work for the success of a party that ignores her." - Susan B. Anthony

by feelfree on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 06:35:07 PM EST
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