The Clintons are finished. Will quit race soon.

I am going on the record to say that this will not go to the convention and most likely will not go into March.  The Clintons are done, finito, they will hang it up soon.

Financially there is no way that the Clintons can compete much longer. Obama has raised $5 million dollars in 24 hours. Five million dollars! People like me (including me) gave $50. My brother who has never given to a campaign before gave $20. My mother who lives on a limited income gave money. I will give again. There are more than half a million of us online, dedicated, and inspired.  $10 each = $5mil. $100 each = $50mil. $100 each month = you get the picture.

On the other hand the Clintons are loaning their campaign money and they have no good news in sight. Obama is going to do well, if not win out right, the next seven contests in as many days.  There is no momentum on the horizon for the Clintons and without momentum fund raising will be more difficult, if not impossible. Where is she going to get $30+ million? Bill? It would be one thing if the loan had enabled a super tuesday victory, and she had pulled ahead to win like Kerry did in Iowa, loaning his campaign money and then winning it all. But she just pulled even on super tuesday and her prospects don't look better than 50-50 in terms of pulling away or winning the nomination.

Its over for the Clintons. The institutional dem power base have already started to talk behind the curtain. People will talk about the 'good of the party'--the need to keep pace with the GOP who should have a candidate shortly--the need to spend some time unifying the party before we take on McCain--avoid a convention deadlock--avoid a public spat like Kennedy/Carter--how she could be senate leader--etc. The writing is on the wall. Nobody wants to risk a long drawn out affair with the possible outcome muddled and/or deadlocked. Everyone is hoping for a way to end this thing fairly and quickly.

Its one thing for a well funded machine to demand its day in court--to let the voters decide--to let this thing play itself out. Its another thing entirely to allow an non-funded campaign to drag the party through a long contested fight when the staff are working for free and the only funder is the candidate herself.  Its over even if we don't yet know it.

I would argue that there is still the sympathy factor, which I think worked in New Hampshire and will keep her alive for a few more weeks.  Even I feel sorry for her. She is decent, likable politician whom we have welcomed into our living rooms for 17 years. Its sad to see this chapter come to an end. Sympathy will bring some money and more votes, but sooner rather than later people will adjust to the loss, and then they may even want to hurry up her departure to end the story quickly.

I know that many of you will be furious by this and trash me and my ideas. But I wanted to go on the record predicting that the Clintons are finished and will quit the race in the near future.

UPDATE: I was wrong its 650,000 potential Obama donors online...and $6 million raised in 24 hours.



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Re: The Clintons (2.00 / 1)

No they are going to hang in there because there are apparently some very damaging stories waiting to be published about Obama.

They can raise money too.

Chuck Todd said whomever wins TX and OH wins the nomination. Looks bad for Obama if that's the case. No way can he win those states with those demographics. Perhaps Obama should stop wasting everyone's money, right?


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by Ga6thDem on Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 10:36:19 PM EST

Re: The Clintons (none / 0)

She won't survive until Texas. Obama sent 60 paid staff there this morning. 60 experienced field staff. He can afford to go on the air tomorrow. I really believe its almost over.


by aiko on Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 10:43:56 PM EST
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Re: The Clintons (2.00 / 0)

How many paid "experienced" field staff did he have in California along with Oprah and Maria?!?


by americanincanada on Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 10:55:17 PM EST
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Re: The Clintons (none / 0)

Yeah that worked in CA didn't it? He did the same thing in TN and it didn't work either did it? Sending staffers is no guarantee.

Wishing Hillary was out of it so Obama can win primaries doesn't make it so. I know you want her to drop out so that he can win those primaries but why should she? She's raising funds and going ahead.

You certainly don't have any confidence in Obama's ability to compete.


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by Ga6thDem on Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 10:57:01 PM EST
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Re: The Clintons (none / 0)

You three seem to forget that the Obama staff was competing against huge established ground games that had been put in place in NY, MA, CA, and AR (which spilled over into TN and OK) for Clinton decades ago.
At the moment Clinton doesn't have much of a ground game in Texas, as Texas has been written off by all of the major Democrats as impossible to get for the past 3 decades.
60 staffers sent to Texas can make a huge difference, especially considering they got youth, vigor, and lots of cash.
In any case early voting doesn't start in Texas until February 19th, and Hillary is projected to lose all of the primaries and caucuses before then, so maybe Texas won't come into play after all.
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by fetboy on Thu Feb 07, 2008 at 01:04:11 AM EST
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And you seem to forget... (none / 0)

...That Obama had the Governor of Massachusetts along with the state's two U.S. Senators in his corner.

In California, Obama had Oprah, Maria Shriver, and Caroline Kennedy in his corner.

The moral of the story is that even with all of those big names, Obama still lost.

If you can't win with Oprah and the patriarch of the Kennedy family backing you, then can you win at all?


by andrewalker08 on Thu Feb 07, 2008 at 09:26:20 AM EST
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Re: The Clintons (none / 0)

I'm not sure I think Chuck Todd is the be all-end all o n politics.  He has said multiple times that Obama or Clinton were done, and he was wrong every time.


by tom32182 on Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 10:53:24 PM EST
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Re: The Clintons (none / 0)

They're going to stick with it because they think their smear machine and campaign of character assassination can win it for them?  Great, looking forward to it...


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by NJIndependent on Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 10:54:31 PM EST
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Re: The Clintons (none / 0)

No, the press is turning on Obama. They are starting to examine his lies and start another narrative.

You live by the press you die by the press is the moral of the story I guess.


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by Ga6thDem on Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 10:58:46 PM EST
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Problem with relying on Texas (none / 0)

Apparently TX allocates 2/3 of its delegates by caucus and the other 1/3 by traditional by a traditional primary. The caucuses will take place in 31 districts and 18,000 precincts. I think that is going to take some serious cash to have a decent chance at grabbing those delegates.

http://ruralvotes.com/thefield/?p=514

Here is a great summary of the wackiness that is Texas.


by highgrade on Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 11:07:22 PM EST
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Re: The Clintons (none / 0)

Look! Its Drudge! Posting here on MYDD!

What stories?  


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by jgkojak on Thu Feb 07, 2008 at 12:48:49 AM EST
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Re: The Clintons (none / 0)

See my diary. US News & World is saying that the "shine is off Obama".

Apparently it's about Kenya and a political patron.


No longer a Democrat, now proudly an independent voter!
by Ga6thDem on Thu Feb 07, 2008 at 07:27:44 AM EST
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Re: The Clintons are finished. Will quit race soon (2.00 / 1)

Yeah, well I gave Hillary $100 today, so that offsets your family.

Hillary will have the money.  That will not be the issue.  

There are more contests beyond the next seven days.  At the end of this month it will still be a tie.  Why should Hillary quit more than Obama should?  Because the kids will cry?  Give me a break.


by ocli on Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 10:37:28 PM EST

Re: The Clintons are finished. Will quit race soon (2.00 / 1)

She will be asked to quit by very rich and very important democrats. imho


by aiko on Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 10:44:41 PM EST
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I think (2.00 / 0)

Hillary Clinton is ALSO getting a big day with fundraising. A few times tonight her website has stalled. Just checked and it was not responding.

Obama may do better but i think Hillary is doing well also.

Many thought she had enough money and were holding back. I have no reason why they thought this, maybe because the media hyped her early fundraising?

I have noticed a lot of comments about not knowing over here:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/2/6/1 93315/1574/110/451456

The Clinton supporters are giving.


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by kevin22262 on Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 10:37:54 PM EST

Re: I think (none / 0)

She will raise some money and she will get some votes. Technically its not over. But when a campaign goes broke its hard to compete without a healthy dose of momentum, buzz, or wins. And I don't see any headed her way.


by aiko on Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 10:46:44 PM EST
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Re: I think (2.00 / 1)

really she apparently loaned it sometime in January before his Sc rout and all the kennedy endorsements and oprah and maria shriver .

I think she performed really well in the face of all that momentum on super tuesday.


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by lori on Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 10:51:26 PM EST
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She is not (2.00 / 0)

broke.


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by kevin22262 on Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 10:54:54 PM EST
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Re: The Clintons are finished. Will quit race soon (2.00 / 0)

My partner and I also gave her $100 today. Rumors and diaries predicting their demise are grossly overstated. She will have the money to compete. She doesn't need to throw money around like Obama does. She's not trying to buy it.


by Iceblinkjm on Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 10:40:10 PM EST

Re: LMAO (2.00 / 0)

Come back and post again after Texas and Ohio.


by americanincanada on Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 10:43:31 PM EST

Re: LMAO (none / 0)

you know i will. right or wrong.


by aiko on Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 10:47:39 PM EST
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Dream On! (2.00 / 0)

Sorry but it's not going to happen.


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by alegre on Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 10:43:32 PM EST

Re: The Clintons are finished. Will quit race soon (2.00 / 0)

just like she was finished after iowa, eh?  Dont count the apples in the basket yet!


by boxer4hrc on Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 10:45:00 PM EST

You're right (2.00 / 0)

Hillary's done.  Stick a fork in her.  No need to give Obama any more money.  He's a sure thing.  ;-)


by randym77 on Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 10:46:04 PM EST

Re: You're right (2.00 / 0)

Actually, now that I think of it, you're right. No need to advertise anymore, or engage in unscrupulous demagoguery (as Krugman put it) about her health care plan on national TV.


by OrangeFur on Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 10:53:06 PM EST
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Re: The Clintons are finished. Will quit race soon (2.00 / 1)

You know this is about the third time you would either write such a diary or make a comment in this vein and it hasn't come to pass.

And then in a seperate diary you " claimed " to be a woman and called her a " fucking bitch " for showing some emotion ( which apparently wasn't even the case if you saw the video ).

Sorry but I believe you are just a little boy typing away at his computer somewhere in his basement .

I'll suggest you need a time out.

She is not going anywhere .

She was finished according to you before new hampshire , she was finished after south carolina , she was finished after all the kennedy's came out of retirement from martha's vineyard to endorse obama , she was finished after zogby had him up by almost 15 points in california.

Do you see a pattern ?


When I speak I have a southern drawl.. When you come down here Stop and say hello I'm an American from south of the Mason Dixon line
by lori on Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 10:49:06 PM EST

Re: The Clintons are finished. Will quit race soon (none / 0)

I am entitled to my opinion and you and your friends are lucky that you have any Obama supporters to kick around.  My short lived and unfortunate ugliness pales in comparison to the crap that is spewed on mydd in reference to Obama on an hourly basis.


by aiko on Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 10:58:24 PM EST
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Re: The Clintons are finished. Will quit race soon (2.00 / 1)

At least you're being a bit gracious about it at the end.

A few things--first, it's Hillary Clinton, not the "Clintons". (Thank you for not using "Billary", an immature phrase that has infected the writing even of NYT and WaPo columnists.) I know Bill was talking a bit too loudly a couple of weeks ago, but it's her campaign, her ideas, and her voters. I admire former President Clinton, but I voted for and am working for Hillary Clinton.

Second, while it helps to have a money-printing machine, all you need is enough money to field a team, and Hillary Clinton will have that. Hell, John McCain has been flat broke for months and he's still going.


by OrangeFur on Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 10:50:45 PM EST

Re: you wish (2.00 / 0)

I'm with ya Joan and I will even raise the prediction and say that after she wins PA, OH and TX she will be in a position to seat Florida and Michigan. Obama might want to keep his VP options open...


by americanincanada on Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 10:57:53 PM EST

Re: The Clintons are finished. Will quit race soon (1.00 / 1)

all this does is fuel people to contribute, sacrifice a little more, and at the end flip the bird to people like u


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by sepulvedaj3 on Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 11:12:38 PM EST

Re: Don't count your chickens Obamafans (none / 0)

And contribute they are....there will be breaking news on that front very soon...


by americanincanada on Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 11:43:48 PM EST

Re: The Clintons are finish (none / 0)

Just went to the bank today after hearing about this and tapped my personal savings which has been building for 5 years. Sent Hillary 1000! dollars online, tired of the BS and want her to WIN!!


by rossinatl on Thu Feb 07, 2008 at 12:08:02 AM EST

Re: The Clintons are finished. Will quit race soon (none / 0)


Hmm, that while the tracking polls show Clinton going past 50% and trending upward.

I'd say Tuesday was Obama's peak, and now it's sliding her way.  Btw, I just don't see how so many people got enthused about so little substance.  Maybe it is all about the ego gratification.


by killjoy on Thu Feb 07, 2008 at 12:09:00 AM EST

Re: The Clintons are finished. (none / 0)

The Democratic Party is not going to deny the winner of CA, NY, NJ, MA and FL the nomination. Hillary is also going to win TX and OH. Latinos and women are with Hillary and she will win TX and I don't care if Obama sends 1 million of his stormtroopers to Ohio Ted (Master Yoda) Strickland will kick their BUTT! Not to mention Fast Eddie lying in wait in PA.


by rossinatl on Thu Feb 07, 2008 at 12:18:19 AM EST

Re: The Clintons are finished. Will quit race soon (none / 0)

I love how the Clintonistas are relying on Ed Rendell- now THAT'S an inspiring figure of hope and change.


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by jgkojak on Thu Feb 07, 2008 at 12:51:18 AM EST


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