Obama Wins More Delegates

by aiko, Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 11:25:59 AM EST

According to Politico and NBC and the campaigns of Obama and the Clintons.

Obama wins the most states. 13-9.

OBAMA wins the most delegates. The Clintons agree.

"The Obama camp projects topping Clinton by nine delegates, 845 to 836.

NBC News, which is projecting delegates based on the Democratic Party's complex formula, figures Obama will wind up with 840 to 849 delegates, versus 829 to 838 for Clinton."

"Clinton aide Guy Cecil says on a conference call that his math has Clinton up one delegate on the night, and that in any case the margin will be within five or six delegates"

This allows the Obama camp to point out - correctly - that they won a majority of the contests yesterday, won in a wider variety of red and blue states, and won in the number of delegates counted.

Obama is also winning in the all important fundraising. In January alone he raised $32 million. I sent $50 this morning. His online community is his WAR CHEST.

According to The Page the Clintons had to self-fund their campaign over the past several weeks. Not a good sign.

"Did the Clintons contribute millions of their own money to her campaign in the last few weeks?"

"Clinton aide Howard Wolfson on the morning's conference call said he doesn't know, but he'd ask."

He doesn't know or he doesn't want to say.....

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/02/06 super-tuesday-results_n_85159.html

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0 208/More_delegates_for_Obama.html

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/020 8/8358.html

http://thepage.time.com/halperins-take-t he-obama-clinton-questions

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0 208/A_question_from_Halperin.html

Bottom line: Obama wins super tuesday.  




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Re: OBAMA Wins Super Tuesday (none / 0)

No, he did not.  And besides, Clinton's delegates in California have not yet been counted.


by truthteller2007 on Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 11:29:26 AM EST

Re: OBAMA Wins Super Tuesday (none / 0)

YES. HE. DID.


by aiko on Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 12:02:51 PM EST
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Why Did Obama Win More Delegates Than Clinton? (none / 0)

"Credit the campaign's organization in the caucus states -- Obama won supermajorites in Alaska (75%), Kansas (74%), Colorado (68%), Minnesota (68%) and in the primary state of Georgia (68%). Obama's margin of victory in Illinois was proportionately larger than Clinton's margin in New York -- more than enough to give him some extra delegates."

http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/arch ives/2008/02/why_did_obama_win_more_dele gat.php


by aiko on Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 12:04:27 PM EST
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Re: no (none / 0)

Obama won more states. Obama won more delegates. Obama has more money.

What about those statements don't you understand?


by aiko on Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 12:46:08 PM EST
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Re: OBAMA Wins Super Tuesday (none / 0)

Come on dude.  I'm an Obama supporter and I even admit it was a straight down the middle TIE.

Enough denials and spin already from both sides.


by IowaCubs on Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 11:29:43 AM EST

No spin (none / 0)

But let's be fair.

If you knew last year -- that the day after Super Tuesday, with half the states gone... with CA, NY, and MA gone -- that this race would be tied.

Would you rather be the spouse of the two term Democratic President?

Or would you rather be the freshman senator with the funny name?

Get off the blogs, folks... it may be true that WE all know Obama well (or know him well enough to know what to twist about him) --- but the electorate is still learning who he is.

...and they're increasingly liking what they're seeing.

Clinton is stalled.  She's running neutral.


by zonk on Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 12:43:16 PM EST
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Re: OBAMA Wins Super Tuesday (none / 0)

crickets LOL!
Must be mydd

I'll throw another little point in here.

What happens when Hillary runs out of states where the voters sent in ther absentee ballots weeks ago?
What happens when Latinos start listening to Barack's message instead of just associating her with her husband?
What happens when Barack can start focusing on just a few states at a time, and not having to worry about flying all across the country, meaning he'll be able to connect with the voters in more one-on-one situations ?


A PROUD Hopium user!
by xodus1914 on Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 11:32:52 AM EST

Re: OBAMA Wins Super Tuesday (none / 0)

Again... and Obama supporter here.

Same result.  We have a split party here over these two excellent candidates.  It's going to have to come down to some dealmaking where one of them agrees with grace to step aside for the good of the party and the country.  

Advantages:
Texas: Hillary
Washington State: Obama
Louisiana: SPLIT
Nebraska: Obama
VA, MD, DC: SPLIT
Wisconsin: Obama
Ohio: Clinton
PA: Clinton
IN: Obama
NC: Obama

AHHHHH!  There is no clear path for either Clinton OR Obama.  This is not good news for anyone and it could get ugly.


by IowaCubs on Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 11:40:11 AM EST
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Re: OBAMA Wins Super Tuesday (none / 0)

Disagree. Obama will win seven out of eight  contests over the next seven days.

He will win DC, MD, ME, WA, NE,

Tossup but lean toward Obama: VA, LA

Unknown: Virgin Islands


by aiko on Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 11:44:52 AM EST
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Re: OBAMA Wins Super Tuesday (none / 0)

That's not my point... these aren't winner take all primaries.  All Clinton and Obama have to do is show up and they'll have a clear shot to a... stalemate.

It's a WASH, and as much as I'd like to believe in your post as an Obama supporter, this is going to be a bitter state by state fight with ultimately NO solution but some backroom deal.


by IowaCubs on Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 11:50:29 AM EST
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Re: OBAMA Wins Super Tuesday (none / 0)

Money and Momentum and Raw Delegate Votes go a long way in any back room deal.


by aiko on Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 12:05:40 PM EST
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What polls (none / 0)

Zogby and a ridiculous Indian casino ballot question poll?

Please....  You can't even keep up with your own spin -- upthread YOU call Zogby unreliable.


by zonk on Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 12:44:35 PM EST
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Sounds nice ... sing it from the rooftops (none / 0)

Game on.

Maybe Idaho and Utah can split off and form their own country and Obama can be President there.  Call it Obamaland.

By the way, the campaign wears on, and as a meaningless aside Clinton won MORE VOTES yesterday.  More people voted for her than Obama.


by dpANDREWS on Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 11:35:58 AM EST

Re: Sounds nice ... sing it from the rooftops (none / 0)

even though there is no way to count the total number of votes in the caucus states that Obama dominated?


by Jim Engler on Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 11:39:36 AM EST
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Re: Sounds nice ... sing it from the rooftops (none / 0)

Agreed dp, but can we also take Colorado, Minnesota, Georgia, Kansas, Delaware, Alabama, South Carolina, North Dakota, and every other state that he has won/will win by double digit margins?


by williestark on Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 12:07:48 PM EST
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If Obama spent 25% of his speeches (none / 0)

Discussing the issues found at http://www.barackobama.com/issues/

he would be ahead by another 5 points. I truly believe that many voters that havent yet supported Obama, are on the fence because they just don't know that he has all of these specific policy proposals. I think he's already won the "change", youth, and post-partisanship vote. He needs to go after the technocrat types.


by highgrade on Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 11:37:15 AM EST

Re: Obama Wins More Delegates (none / 0)

Lousiana is a Obama blowout.


by Djneedle83 on Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 11:52:44 AM EST

Re: Obama Wins More Delegates (2.00 / 0)

Gee I wonder why???? Can't wait for Texas myself


by rossinatl on Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 11:59:46 AM EST
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Re: Obama Wins More Delegates (2.00 / 0)

WHO WON THE POPULAR VOTE COUNT?


by Sieglinde on Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 12:25:07 PM EST

By less (none / 0)

than 1% -- and including the fact that it's a dumb statistic since caucus states cannot be judged on the same proportion as primary states?

YOu folks really are at the bottom of the spin buckete.

The 90s are just. about. over.


by zonk on Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 12:46:48 PM EST
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Re: Obama Wins More Delegates (none / 0)

I'm an HRC supporter

But the bottom line is this folks--I only care about the Dems winning November.

McCain is going to soon say he will only go 1 term and he will announce a telegenic running mate that WILL be quite acceptable to the GOP--So the background landscape will likely soon change in favour of the GOP (and I'm a Dem!)

To me, it is obvious that Dems must 'now' do TWO THINGS

1)Somehow someway count MI/Fla votes in deciding our Nominee, not after the fact--otherwise the GOP will run away with FLA in Nov hands down!

and

2)Somehow cause the %Popular Vote across ALL states to be in the same direction as the delegate count ! We MUST be seen as having "legitimacy"

At the moment Penn,Ohio and Texas are maybe net net for HRC -we shall see

But at the end of the 'day' we gotta solve BOTH problems (ligitimacy because %pop vote differs from del count to dat) and the Mi/Fla thing (we HAVE to COUNT their votes and not after the fact


by ionsys on Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 01:37:09 PM EST


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