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We have had enough. No more stinking sex scandals.

by aiko, Fri Jul 06, 2007 at 09:53:58 AM EST

I really don't think we should ignore this kind of chatter. It will only be amplified tenfold in 2008.

As someone else said: We have had enough.

IN CASE YOU WERE WONDERING WHAT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT

July 5th First Read NBC's Chuck Todd and Mark Murray:

-- Blame Canada: For the most part, the NYT has been tougher on Clinton's opponents than Clinton (at least in our humble opinion). However, the only paper to hint at the former president's rumored association with someone in Canada has been the Times. They did it directly last year when they did a story on how often the two Clintons spend weekends together. NYT for pay: http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.h tml?res=F50E11FB3B5A0C708EDDAC0894DE4044 82A

A controversial piece, to say the least.

Well, the Times did it again, more subtlely when it included this in its write-up of the Clintons in Iowa. "While the couple drew cheers from hundreds at the parade -- homemade 'Hillary 2008' signs adorned front porches and one woman thanked Mr. Clinton for 'saving Africa' -- a couple of men booed Mr. Clinton along the way. 'Go back to Canada!' another man shouted at him -- eight times. Mr. Clinton walked on." Wonder how many calls the Times has gotten from Clinton folks on this one?

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/

Canada???? WTF?

Mr. Clinton's presence was mostly but not universally welcomed here. -- a couple of men booed Mr. Clinton along the way. "Go back to Canada!" another man shouted at him -- eight times. Mr. Clinton walked on.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/05/us/pol itics/05clinton.html?_r=2&ref=politi cs&oref=slogin&oref=slogin

After a bit of searching but refusing to pay the NYT fee this is what they are talking about:

Bill Clinton Spotted with Billionaire Blonde
April 21, 2005

She's been spotted all over town with former president Bill Clinton: a blonde bombshell, who resembles Hillary. Wednesday night, the mystery blonde was by Clinton's side once again at a New York BLT restaurant with Jack Nicholson and producer Jerry Bruckheimer.

Be sure to catch Thursday's "Extra" to see the pictures of Bill and Belinda that have everybody talking.

So who is the mystery woman? And what's she really doing with the former president? Only "Extra" has the answers.

New York Daily News columnist Ben Widdicombe told us the woman, Belinda Stronach, is a billionaire member of Canada's Conservative Party, and she's very possibly a future candidate for prime minister of Canada.

"She's blonde, she's ambitious and she's in politics, but she's not Bill Clinton's wife," Widdicombe said. "It's Belinda Stronach, his friend from Canada who's been visiting Bill in New York this week."

"She gives money to his pet projects and in return, he supports her projects, for instance, a children's hospital in Canada," Widdicombe revealed.

Stronach and her father donated money to Clinton's presidential library, and she nearly became an investor in his friend, JFK Jr.'s, George magazine, meeting with him just a week before his death.

And Belinda is no stranger to the limelight either. She's divorced from Olympic champion speed skater Johan Olaf Lass and currently has romantic ties to another politician: Canadian Brian MacKay. Still, there have been rumors of a romance between Belinda and Bill since they met five years ago at a charity event.

"Anytime Bill Clinton is seen with a beautiful blonde, there's going to be rumors," Widdicombe insisted. "But in this case, they really are just friends."

And there's more good news for Bill watchers too: his good behavior is carrying over to his diet. While Jack, Jerry and the rest of the party dined on steak at BLT Wednesday night, Bill feasted on a healthier meal of swordfish and white asparagus.

http://telepixtvcgi.warnerbros.com/v2/ne ws/0405/21/3/text.html

As someone said: We have had enough. Time to move on.

NO MORE STINKING SEX SCANDALS. VOTE NO ON HILLARY.

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haters have nothing to do (none / 0)

Looks like haters have nothing to do today?

Hillary: We will finally have a president who doesn't mind pulling over and asking for directions. Am I right, ladies?

by areyouready on Fri Jul 06, 2007 at 10:12:00 AM EST

good polling #s (none / 0)

Looks like Hill-haters are in full force today. I smelled some good polling #s were upcoming. LOL.

Hillary: We will finally have a president who doesn't mind pulling over and asking for directions. Am I right, ladies?

by areyouready on Fri Jul 06, 2007 at 10:14:12 AM EST

Re: good polling #s (none / 0)

Perhaps it is antecdotal but I have noticed that right before explosive poll numbers for Clinton and/or bad news for other candidates comes out the number of smear pieces increases dramatically.

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by robliberal on Fri Jul 06, 2007 at 11:55:46 AM EST
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Obamamaniacs shouted what at Clinton? (none / 0)

That is just looney. Go back to Canada? WTF?

If you have proof of something Obamamanaics then spell it out. But don't rehash year old B.S.

Sheesh. Sad when people who supposedly back the Democratic Party use righwing attacks because their guy is trailing.

Some Obama supporters are so over the top I really fear what they will do come Feb. '08. I worry they will do harm to themselves.

by dpANDREWS on Fri Jul 06, 2007 at 10:22:25 AM EST

Re: Obamamaniacs shouted what at Clinton? (3.00 / 1)

This is NBC and the New York Times alluding to a 'woman in Canada.'

This is just the beginning. They will tear him apart girlfriend by girlfriend. And those of us so-called good dems deserve everything we are about to get, if we nominate her as our party's candidate.

by aiko on Fri Jul 06, 2007 at 10:30:07 AM EST
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Did they do the shouting? (none / 0)

Or was it a supporter of another campaign?

by dpANDREWS on Fri Jul 06, 2007 at 10:34:34 AM EST
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Re: Did they do the shouting? (3.00 / 1)

The guy in the parade was probably a troll. But that's the point. There are going to be a lot of parades and a lot of trolls. The GOP will cloak their whole campaign around Bill Clinton's past. Tony Snow is already doing it this week from the WH. This stuff isn't going to go away. It's not just me who is turned off by his escapades--

by aiko on Fri Jul 06, 2007 at 10:41:01 AM EST
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I am not saying you are the only one (none / 0)

I will say you are in the minority and most of the people who agree with you are die hard republicans who won't vote for a Democrat anyway. Bill Clinton is still the most popular politician in this country. He numbers are still great.

by dpANDREWS on Fri Jul 06, 2007 at 10:51:25 AM EST
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Re: I am not saying you are the only one (3.00 / 1)

We can agree to disagree but the larger point isn't what I think or how I will vote but it is what the GOP will do for all of 2008.

We have choices. We don't need to go there.

by aiko on Fri Jul 06, 2007 at 10:56:06 AM EST
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Re: I am not saying you are the only one (none / 0)

Ok somehow you think they will not try to smear any of our candidates,please wake up.I'll rather not base my vote on how scared I am of the GOP but who I think is the most qualified and will do the best job.Please stop being a scary cat

by bebe on Fri Jul 06, 2007 at 11:03:48 AM EST
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Re: I am not saying you are the only one (3.00 / 1)

You are right. They will smear all of our guys/gals. But you gotta admit, some have more skeletons in their closet than others.

by aiko on Fri Jul 06, 2007 at 11:10:50 AM EST
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Re: I am not saying you are the only one (none / 0)

Yeah Hillary is already defined and she is still competitive and in some cases leading all gop candidates nationally.So ireally don't see what you are scared of.I look at this in terms of the electoral college,we still have red states,blue states and purple right.So i go straight to the purple and determine who is doing well there.Thats how i look at who might be able to win there and Hillary is in a good position.This is becos she is not gonna lose any blue state kerry carried.The purple states like florida,ohio,pennyslvania and midwest states she is doing the best out of our candidates.So this electability issue is b.s.Just wait and see how they will define Obama and Edwards when they are the candidates.By the time elections roll by,obama unfavourables will be in the low 50's

by bebe on Fri Jul 06, 2007 at 11:18:00 AM EST
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I will not base my vote on psychoanalyzing (none / 0)

and their thought process,frankly if i do that i will lose consciousness.I will rather base my choice on candidate qualification and choices.And frankly I have seen some recently polls that show obama,edwards losing NJ,Penn and NY to Guiliani by wide margins about a 10 point spread.This has me worried,becos if we lose those 3 states how will you win the election.

by bebe on Fri Jul 06, 2007 at 11:22:59 AM EST
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wasn't it becos we were playing to the gop (none / 0)

that we had kerry.Frankly some dems just amaze,they are so scared of the gop , they are always ready to play from a position of weakness and are willing to sacrifice who they think is a better candidate just because they are scared of what the gop will do.How about showing some confidence

by bebe on Fri Jul 06, 2007 at 11:26:42 AM EST
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Re: wasn't it becos we were playing to the gop (none / 0)

exactly. I mean, if you are confident in Edwards & Obama, go for it. Don't come to tell us Hillary should not win primaries simply because GOPers hate her.

I frankly think she is extremely strong. Any visible candidate's favoribility will eventually settle down to around 50s unless you are Keneye(sorry for my horrible speling, I refer to Obama's previous opponent).

Hillary: We will finally have a president who doesn't mind pulling over and asking for directions. Am I right, ladies?

by areyouready on Fri Jul 06, 2007 at 11:38:28 AM EST
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Re: Obamamaniacs shouted what at Clinton? (none / 0)

The Canada thing is old news. Everyone here knows how much I detest a Hillary candidacy. But this diary is off target.

by Pravin on Fri Jul 06, 2007 at 11:24:55 AM EST
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Re: Obamamaniacs shouted what at Clinton? (3.00 / 0)

I have known about this for a while, it has been in the press, on the low. Even Chris Matthews, for whatever it is worth, has questioned the validity of their marriage. It is known, documented that they are more apart than together. So, what does it mean? Nothing. It is none of our business. If this is how they want to live their lives, to stay together, then so be it. It is nothing, unless it becomes a bombshell, a story that you can not turn your head away from. Bill Clinton is a womanizer, period. But I am not married to him and that Hillary's problem. Not yours, mine's or OURS. Let this go. And for the record, stop throwing Obama supporters in the same dirty water. You can easily be crowned a "Hillary-bot", which is a very horrible term. A few "bad" apples, do not spoil the whole sack.

"I want my voice to be read"

by icebergslim on Fri Jul 06, 2007 at 11:27:42 AM EST
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please chris mattews doesn't know what he is (none / 0)

talking about most of the time

and he can seem to let go of bill's penis.

anyone that will interview ann coulter does not

deserve to be quoted by you,ice.you are a reasonable

obama supporter.

c. mattews is hardly fair when it comes to the

clintons

by bebe on Fri Jul 06, 2007 at 11:32:20 AM EST
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Re: please chris mattews doesn't know what he is (none / 0)

Bebe, PLEASE, if you read it, I said "for whatever it is worth", meaning NOT MUCH FOR ME. And after the Ann Coulter crap, Hardball is off my TIVO for good. Anyone putting that lizard, vitriol, harlot on a show for an hour, with everything else going on in the world, deserves to be TURNED and TUNED OUT. And there were NO QUOTES by Matthews. I could cared less about Hillary and Bill Clinton's marriage. That is on THEM. She decided to put up with him, that is on her. And it is none of our business, or did you read the whole post.

"I want my voice to be read"

by icebergslim on Fri Jul 06, 2007 at 11:36:23 AM EST
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hey you are right,my apologies (none / 0)

by bebe on Fri Jul 06, 2007 at 11:46:48 AM EST
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I like Chris Matthews a lot (none / 0)

He infuriates me sometimes but generally I like his show because of top rate guests and because he asks harder questions than most DC journos would dare ask and doesn't stop asking even if the guest doesn't want to answer.

That being said Chris is sometimes 180 degrees off the mark. If you listened to him a couple yrs back you'd have sworn that Auh-nuld would be crowned king of California because he was just such a swell guy. That didn't happen.

If you listened to Chris you'd have sworn that Rudy would have walked in the Republican nomination and promptly wrapped it up as the rightwing threw aside their differences and worshipped him as the very electable Mr. 9/11 Mayor. That isn't happening.

You'd also have sworn that Hillary was going to fall on her face once the media spotlight of the campaign hit her and the debates started. She would prove cold, uncomfortable, etc. etc. The opposite has happened.

Chris is totally focused on the Clinton's marriage, however, I don't think most voters are (well okay maybe wingnuts are).

by dpANDREWS on Fri Jul 06, 2007 at 01:29:46 PM EST
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Re: I like Chris Matthews a lot (none / 0)

I agree, and the most obvious was actually spending a whole freakin' hour on the Hillary book. I mean, WTF, and who cares!!!

"I want my voice to be read"

by icebergslim on Fri Jul 06, 2007 at 03:31:44 PM EST
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Re: We have had enough. (none / 0)

She looks like a younger better looking Hillary Clinton minus the bottocks and the nose job. Anyway,although some have said there are just friends, i just would not trust Bill with any women around him...The guy is a serial womanizer...There's no such thing as "just friends' with a beautiful lady with Bill Clinton unless she's family member.

by JaeHood on Fri Jul 06, 2007 at 10:23:57 AM EST

Wow.... (none / 0)

You're citing extra now? Come on guys. Seriously.This is getting bad. If someone cited an extra article against edwards or obama I would laugh.

the article even says

"Anytime Bill Clinton is seen with a beautiful blonde, there's going to be rumors," Widdicombe insisted. "But in this case, they really are just friends."

by world dictator on Fri Jul 06, 2007 at 10:25:01 AM EST

Re: Wow.... (none / 0)

If you pay for the NYT link you can read about there. I just choose not to.

by aiko on Fri Jul 06, 2007 at 10:31:25 AM EST
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Hey You might as well go ahead and pay for it (none / 0)

since you have gone as far back as 2005 to search for your "Extra" article.You clearly are desperate to smear.So go quickly and pay for it ,so you can bring us some more information.

by bebe on Fri Jul 06, 2007 at 10:36:00 AM EST
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Re: Hey You might as well go ahead and pay for it (none / 0)

This was in the New York Times. I find a credible paper, and please don't say so, because they are reporting a story on a candidate you like, this has been swirling around for a long time. It is a non-issue. If BC was doing anything, I am sure he has cleaned his act up by now.

"I want my voice to be read"

by icebergslim on Fri Jul 06, 2007 at 11:31:11 AM EST
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Get a life. Get a brain. (none / 0)

You are actually quoting Extra? This is almost too funny to be real. So what's next? You quote from the National Enquirer, The New York Post, Fox News?

It wasn't so long ago that the neocons were saying Obama was a Muslim that had ties to terrorists. Most of us whether we support him for President or not came to his defense. This is what credible people with integrity do. People that have no other purpose than to disseminate lies, chaos and innuendo do what you do.

I don't care who you support for President. I respect your right as an American citizen to exercise your Constitutional right of free expression. But I have absolutely no respect for anyone that does nothing more than spew this type of worn out worked over bullshit that used to be the mainstay of the neocons and their zombies.

Take your neocon nonsense and shove it. K?

by DoIT on Fri Jul 06, 2007 at 10:25:12 AM EST

Re: (none / 0)

All the Hillary bashers have left: Smears.

by georgep on Fri Jul 06, 2007 at 10:25:44 AM EST

Re: We have had enough. No more stinking sex scand (none / 0)

Anyone that gets his stories from "Extra" and from "2005" and makes it fact and a case to not vote for another candidate must be clearly nuts.Hey you know what I heard from "inside edition" Obama is dating the Obama girl so he is cheating on his wife OMG I can't vote for him.See how sick that is.

by bebe on Fri Jul 06, 2007 at 10:28:37 AM EST

Re: We have had enough (none / 0)

Obamagirl and Obama never met...We know for a fact that Bill and melinda has a relationship...We also know that Bill is a cheater and a womanizer....So again,your argumnet is plain out of line. I would not trust Bill with any woman around him...The guy is a dirty dog cheater..The fact that Hillary stayed with this cheater makes her weak, not strong....I have no respect for women that would stay with dogs like Bill.

by JaeHood on Fri Jul 06, 2007 at 10:35:15 AM EST
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I have no respect for someone that will tell (none / 0)

someone else to divorce her husband and wife.By the way how will you like it if i came to your house and told you to divorce your husband/wife.I always thought it was right wingers that will think this way.

by bebe on Fri Jul 06, 2007 at 10:38:19 AM EST
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Hey where is your fact,The "Extra" piece (none / 0)

you will need to do better than that.Or what do you mean a "relationship".If you mean he knows her then is that a crime.Or if you mean he is in bed with her,then where is your fact.

by bebe on Fri Jul 06, 2007 at 10:40:41 AM EST
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Re: Hey where is (none / 0)

so you would stay with your cheating dirty dog husband???...Tht's weak,very weak...A strong woman would pick up and leave. Hillary is weak...She stayed with the dirty dog cheater because she had planned to run for president, and he was a big asset to her...This is why people do not like her. She knew Bil was nothing but a dirty dog cheater that prayed on women, but instead of leaving the guy, she tried to hide his dark secrets...Hillary is weak, and her husband is nothing but a dirty rat cheater...I would not trust this man around my little sister or cousin.

by JaeHood on Fri Jul 06, 2007 at 11:03:13 AM EST
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Hey maybe I can help you (none / 0)

understand the concept.I will spell it out for you.

It is not in my place to say to another human being

that I don't know,divorce your wife/husband.

So frankly if I choose to stay or not is none of

your business.You should be concerned about policies

that affect you okay.Hey maybe you should cut down

on the time you spend watching Extra and

Entertainment tonight

by bebe on Fri Jul 06, 2007 at 11:07:53 AM EST
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I really don't have patience for this (none / 0)

by bebe on Fri Jul 06, 2007 at 11:08:40 AM EST
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whatever you say ma'm (none / 0)

I'm just saying that this is very weak stuff...It means that Hillary can't live without the dirty dog cheater. In my opinion,Hillary is as bad as the dirty dog cheater...By staying with the dog, he will see nothing wrong in banging other women because it must be alright to do so since his wife don't think it's bad. For years, Hillary allowed bill to bang other women and never challenged him and threatened him with divorce ...Matterfact,Bill was the one who served her with divorce papers...She strong armed bill into staying with her and i just shake my head at that. I just do not like that woman...She's ambitious and calculative...I will do everything to make sure this woman wont be president.

by JaeHood on Fri Jul 06, 2007 at 11:20:33 AM EST
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Re: whatever you say ma'm (none / 0)

So because she forgives her husband for cheating on her she's disqualified for president. yeaaaaah. Alright.

by world dictator on Fri Jul 06, 2007 at 11:28:23 AM EST
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Re: whatever you say ma'm (none / 0)

forgive him?...How many time has Bill cheated on her??..Pfft..What about all those women in arkansas...Oh nooo!!,Bill is not a cheater so those stories are false.... I'll leave it at that...Once a cheater, you'll always be a cheater...Bill couldnt stop cheating after he got in the White House,so i doubt he's stopping now... Anyway,i dont think Hillary is a strong woman...she's a weak woman that needs help.

by JaeHood on Fri Jul 06, 2007 at 11:56:44 AM EST
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Let this go, (none / 0)

this is none of our affair. We all know, as well as Hillary, that Bill Clinton is a womanizer. This is all rumored bullshit. Let it go. It is their affair, not ours.

"I want my voice to be read"

by icebergslim on Fri Jul 06, 2007 at 11:59:18 AM EST
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Re: Let this go, (none / 0)

You are wrong. As a dem it is my business. Do you remember what they did to Kerry? And how about the way they turned Gore into a cartoon of himself?

When you are running for president everything is fair game. That's why politicians are vetted so carefully. But Bill Clinton was just so good a politician that we dems have given him a pass all these years.

And we paid for it mightily.

This is what we have to look forward to in 2008. More of the same. We will see these woman paraded in front of us for months (maybe years).

It is our business and we should all be talking about it. Get it out in the open. Air it out. Leave no stone unturned. Maybe after all that Billary can survive another day and if they do more power to them.

It is our business. It is our WH. It is our President. It is our Party.

by aiko on Fri Jul 06, 2007 at 12:24:33 PM EST
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Exactly (none / 0)

once you decide to run for the highest office on this planet,you have to get heavily vetted....I think this stuff is my business because i want to vote for a moral person. Hillary allowing her husband to cheat on her with other women while she hides it from the public is moraly wrong...I don't think this kind of behavior is worth getting a promotion. I think this is my damn business because i want to vote for a moral leader.

by JaeHood on Fri Jul 06, 2007 at 12:36:38 PM EST
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just like bush right,he was moral right (none / 0)

by bebe on Fri Jul 06, 2007 at 12:39:03 PM EST
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Hillary allows her husband to cheat on her (none / 0)

while she hides it from the public.That somehow doesn't make sense to me.Hmm Hillary must be a very freaky woman to allow her husband to cheat on her,then hide it from the public.

by bebe on Fri Jul 06, 2007 at 12:44:34 PM EST
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Re: Hillary allows her husband to cheat on her (none / 0)

The very idea that you allow someone to cheat on you ,means you probably didn't care if the public knew.Hillary did not allow bill to cheat,lets be careful what we say,and may be you should stop believing everything carl beinstein says okay.you sound like a right winger.

by bebe on Fri Jul 06, 2007 at 12:47:48 PM EST
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Re:Let it go? (none / 0)

How about you let me go on whatever i want to go on?...Why are you so concern about what i'm writting...Just ignore it if you dont like it..simple.

by JaeHood on Fri Jul 06, 2007 at 12:32:03 PM EST
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Re:Let it go? (none / 0)

you have every right to be misguided by your predetermined conclusions. I accept that

by world dictator on Fri Jul 06, 2007 at 09:11:35 PM EST
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Re: We have had enough. (none / 0)

If you dont like it here, take your HillBot back to Hillaryis44 website....This site is dominated by Edwards and Obama supporters...If you dont like what we write, then leave..simple...I'm sick and tired of whinny Hillbots.

by JaeHood on Fri Jul 06, 2007 at 10:32:25 AM EST

I guess you are the cool kids right (none / 0)

How old are you by the way

by bebe on Fri Jul 06, 2007 at 10:33:53 AM EST
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Re: I guess you are the cool kids right (none / 0)

Old enough to whip your little butt.

by JaeHood on Fri Jul 06, 2007 at 10:37:25 AM EST
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Re: I guess you are the cool kids right (none / 0)

Is physically threatening someone allowed on this website?

by DoIT on Fri Jul 06, 2007 at 10:56:49 AM EST
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Re: I guess you are the cool kids right (none / 0)

I meant,i'm old enough to be your father.

by JaeHood on Fri Jul 06, 2007 at 10:38:10 AM EST
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Re: I guess you are the cool kids right (none / 0)

This is really creepy. I am serious. If you really are as old as you claim to be, this is scary.

For a guy at your age to be so obsessed with Clinton, and to talk to 'Bebe' in such a way can hardly be described as psychologically healthy.

I am sorry, but I won't be surprised to find out that cops have the psychological profile of some of these Hillary haters.

Hillary: We will finally have a president who doesn't mind pulling over and asking for directions. Am I right, ladies?

by areyouready on Fri Jul 06, 2007 at 10:42:59 AM EST
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Re: I guess you are the cool kids right (none / 0)

if you are that old then you should know that it is not in your place to tell someone to divorce his wife/husband.But obviously your writing doesn't show that,so I doubt you are that old or else if you are,then there obviously a problem.

by bebe on Fri Jul 06, 2007 at 10:45:20 AM EST
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Re: I guess you are the cool kids right (none / 0)

This guy is creepy. I mean for a guy in his 50s, 60s to be so obessed with a woman close to 60 is really creepy.

I have no idea about his personal life, but that does not sound very good. Just hope we won't be called to profile a stalker or sth in the future.

Hillary: We will finally have a president who doesn't mind pulling over and asking for directions. Am I right, ladies?

by areyouready on Fri Jul 06, 2007 at 10:49:02 AM EST
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Re: I guess you are the cool kids right (none / 0)

LOL...you hillbots are funny...go back to hillbot-land...Seriously,i'm 22 but old enought to birth your young ass...you heard me?

by JaeHood on Fri Jul 06, 2007 at 10:56:58 AM EST
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JaeHood (none / 0)

No offense, but you sound exactly like a f*cking Republican with your comments about the Clinton marriage.

You are pissed that Hillary stayed with her husband, because in your little mind you believe that if she had left him, she would have disappeared from political life. It seems Hillary hasn't lived her life the way you wanted her to.

Two words - tough shit.

by samueldem on Fri Jul 06, 2007 at 11:43:40 AM EST
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Re: We have had enough. (none / 0)

This site is dominated by Edwards and Obama supporters...

Time for Kindergarden? Mom, mom, please don't give Sister Clinton that candy! Only I, Obama can have it!

LOL.

Hillary: We will finally have a president who doesn't mind pulling over and asking for directions. Am I right, ladies?

by areyouready on Fri Jul 06, 2007 at 10:37:16 AM EST
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A Plea for Sanity (none / 0)

I have no problem at all with there being a majority of Edwards and Obama supporters here. I think that the majority of us who complain about posts such as this do so because of the demeaning, disrespectful and hateful manner in which these ideas are presented.

I don't have a problem with whom anyone supports to be the Democratic nominee. I might have a few issues with Gravel supporters but whatever. I am a Democrat and a very partisan one. My issue is with this neocon attack strategy that people supposedly in the same political party are using toward Hillary. It isn't fair and it isn't wise.

Almost every single attack on Hillary here is directly out of the neocon vast right wing conspiracy play book. This shit has Newt Gingrich/Tom DeLay/Rush Limbaugh/Ann Coulter/Sean Hannity/Karl Rove/Dick Cheney written all over it. I mean this shit really stinks. And it ain't stinkin to high heaven if you get my drift.

My advice to fellow Democrats is that you should support your candidate without telling lies about the ones you don't support. I belong to the Democratic Party. We aren't a bunch of frickin neocons. We have respect for human decency. And we don't resort to the tactics of our enemies to attack our friends. We can fight this out because we must. But we will fight fair.

by DoIT on Fri Jul 06, 2007 at 10:54:16 AM EST
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Re: We have had enough. No more stinking sex scand (none / 0)

Hey plus the man shouting Go back to Canada must have thought Bill was someone else he knew from Canada.Remember someone was making a case out of someone mistaken Bill for Bob Barker on this site.So we might just accept that there were some drunks in that crowd.

by bebe on Fri Jul 06, 2007 at 10:32:50 AM EST

National Enquirer. (none / 0)

Actually, I believe 'National Enquirer' also carried that story long time ago.

Put this nutty diary aside, belinda was a 'rising political star' in Canada, but she decided to give up on politics recently and returns to her father's business.

She was recently diagnosed with breast cancer.
http://www.therecord.com/home_page_front _story/home_page_front_story_1081405.htm l

Her father is a big Clinton fan and they have donated lots of money to Clinton foundation to battle ads and other global issues. That's why Clinton has very close relationship with both of them.

Ms. Belinda was dating with the now foreign minister at that time.

This hit piece is extremely silly.

Hillary: We will finally have a president who doesn't mind pulling over and asking for directions. Am I right, ladies?

by areyouready on Fri Jul 06, 2007 at 10:34:28 AM EST

Re: National Enquirer. (none / 0)

these guys are ridiculuos.

by bebe on Fri Jul 06, 2007 at 10:42:11 AM EST
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Re: National Enquirer. (none / 0)

Right. That's why NBC and the New York Times are reporting on it. It is because they heard about in the Enquirer. Of course. Right. Sure.

by aiko on Fri Jul 06, 2007 at 10:44:49 AM EST
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What's Wrong With Sex? (none / 0)

Hillary is 44!

by sterkt on Fri Jul 06, 2007 at 10:47:56 AM EST

Re: What's Wrong With Sex? (none / 0)

Ask the Expert

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClfpG2-1B v4&NR=1

"I don't oppose all wars...what I do oppose, is a dumb war" ~ Barack Obama

by BlueDiamond on Sat Jul 07, 2007 at 11:42:10 AM EST
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This diary is trash (none / 0)

And the commentary is trash.

No one is going to withhold their from Hillary Clinton
over rumors about Bill Clinton's sex life.

Please delete this.

by horizonr on Fri Jul 06, 2007 at 10:49:14 AM EST

Re: This diary is trash (none / 0)

No. It is not trash. This guy has girlfriends going back 30+ years.

This isn't about lies and innuendo. The research has been done. The names, the places, the photos are all out there. It is going to keep coming up over and over again. It is a political reality.

by aiko on Fri Jul 06, 2007 at 10:59:58 AM EST
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Re: This diary is trash (none / 0)

This isn't about...innuendo.

But that's all your diary is -- innuendo -- and the resulting tabloid commentary is
exactly what I would expect such a diary to produce.

If you want to have a serious conversation about Bill Clinton's philandering as a
liability for a Hillary Clinton general election campaign and a potential distraction
for a Hillary Clinton presidency, this is not the way to go about it.

by horizonr on Fri Jul 06, 2007 at 11:37:05 AM EST
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Re: This diary is trash (none / 0)

I respect your opinion. But I don't think you can have a serious conversation about Bill Clinton's philandering. That is why nobody does it. The dems seem to think if we just don't talk about it then maybe it will go away. Everybody is embarrassed.

Frankly Bill Clinton is Hillary's weakest link. He may have been a good president but he has never been a good husband.

by aiko on Fri Jul 06, 2007 at 11:46:51 AM EST
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Re: We have had enough. No more stinking sex scand (3.00 / 1)

wasnt he just talking about draft dodging? And yes I know Clinton was in England not Canada.

www.adamconner7.com

by Adam Conner on Fri Jul 06, 2007 at 10:51:14 AM EST

"Go Back to Canada" comment random (3.00 / 3)

Nothing to do with the canadian lady rumors. It is a common insult by self righteous conservatives whenever they see someone they percieve as the "Canada fleeing 60s leftist" because of the draft.

by Pravin on Fri Jul 06, 2007 at 11:27:03 AM EST

We have had enough. No more stinking sex scandals. (none / 0)

Uhhh. So why are you posting tabloid innuendo and trash like this? You don't see normal people posting unsupported rumors about people's sex lives.

Or, you could look at it logically. If a guy were having an affair, do you think he'd take the woman to dinner at a high visibility NY restaurant and sit with Jack Nicholson and Jerry Bruckheimer?

by hwc on Fri Jul 06, 2007 at 11:39:57 AM EST

Re: We have had enough. No more stinking sex scand (none / 0)

It is a bit hypocritical I admit. But if we don't have this conversation now before we pick a nominee, then we are going to be stuck listening to this crap for years.

by aiko on Fri Jul 06, 2007 at 11:48:56 AM EST
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I see where you are coming from (none / 0)

but that doesn't even factor in my decision for choosing my candidate

by bebe on Fri Jul 06, 2007 at 11:52:33 AM EST
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hey you are so scared of the big bad republicans (none / 0)

right.Stop being a weakling,Republicans are daddy and you are the son taking the whipping right,Pls.I am not that type of dem.I go in with whom i think is the most qualified and i fight for it,bottom line.

by bebe on Fri Jul 06, 2007 at 12:09:05 PM EST
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Re: hey you are so scared of the (none / 0)

That's the way I feel too. You said it very well.

by aiko on Fri Jul 06, 2007 at 12:38:43 PM EST
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Re: hey you are so scared of the (none / 0)

The only real scandal, despite the neocon talking points, was the Monica thing. He lied about getting a blow job. Period. How Utterly Scandalous!

All the rest of the so-called scandals were a bunch of nonsense, including one where the Clinton's were accused of murdering a friend of theirs. So take your scandal ridden fiasco bullshit to Fox News or some other neocon place where you can feel right at home.

The neocons won't be able to use this shit against any of our candidates if we don't let them. Let's start by not letting them do it here.

by DoIT on Fri Jul 06, 2007 at 01:17:18 PM EST
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Re: We have had enough. No more stinking sex scand (none / 0)

Chuck Todd? The same guy who predicted that Bush's approval ratings would be over 50% by now if Pelosi became Speaker of the House?

I guess I'm not surprised that this guy doesn't understand that "Go back to Canada!" is a taunt aimed at draft dodgers. He seems completely clueless.

Awesome diary, by the way. This is truly how a great country should choose its leaders.

"Another problem we have...is that in election years we behave somewhat as primitive peoples do at the time of the full moon." --Harry Truman

by Steve M on Fri Jul 06, 2007 at 12:56:00 PM EST

Re: We have had enough. No more stinking sex scand (none / 0)

Nah, Steve. We NEED to have this tabloid discussion. :-)

Look at it this way: Some can be REALLY disappointed/disgusted and some can just state that THEY don't really care, but that the right-wing is going to "run with it." Win-win all around.

by georgep on Fri Jul 06, 2007 at 01:17:15 PM EST
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Re: We have had enough. No more stinking sex scand (none / 0)

I think there are a number of honestly well-intentioned people who dread a Hillary run because they figure, like it or not, the media will make it a soap opera all over again. They may be right in terms of what will happen, but it feels like surrender to choose your candidate based upon concerns like that. However, I don't think everyone who brings this issue up is necessarily a Hillary-hating concern troll.

What I find ironic is that the netroots are full of people who are like "oh no, we can't run Hillary, the media will be so mean to her" - but a lot of these same people hope Al Gore gets in the race. As though the media would treat him any better than the Clintons.

"Another problem we have...is that in election years we behave somewhat as primitive peoples do at the time of the full moon." --Harry Truman

by Steve M on Fri Jul 06, 2007 at 03:05:21 PM EST
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Re: We have had enough. (none / 0)

Of course the diary is trash, it is a trashy subject which will eventually be brought up in a trashy election. The question for us Democrats is do we discuss this reasonably, before it is too late? This trash is reasonable because Bill's actions in the past have made it so. Their marriage is the subject for a reasonable discussion because Hillary's actions, or non-actions, in regards to his past public affairs is a largely responsible for her widespread unfavorables. At some point, Hillary supporters are going to have to face it's a ticking time bomb, a tremendously unfair one for her, but like her response to the Lewinsky affair it was damned if you do, damned if you don't. The next time it will be double damned if you do, double damned if you don't.

by DD2 on Fri Jul 06, 2007 at 01:11:13 PM EST

Re: We have had enough. (none / 0)

ticking time bomb

Sigh, delusion has no boundry.

Hillary: We will finally have a president who doesn't mind pulling over and asking for directions. Am I right, ladies?

by areyouready on Fri Jul 06, 2007 at 01:50:18 PM EST
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Re: (none / 0)

You're not going to defeat Hillary this way- don't you know that? You only make whoever you like look really bad. You are the last person I would want as a supporter- but you go ahead and spread your poison- because it's only ending up in your own backyard.

by reasonwarrior on Fri Jul 06, 2007 at 03:53:02 PM EST

Everyone Knows (none / 0)

This is not News. Everyone knows that Bill Clinton is still is addicted to sex and that he never stopped cheating. There are photos out of him kissing some lady at an event. He was even parked outside of Belinda's house one night and spent the whole evening there. This is not News.

What is News is that Hil Bots think Bill Clinton did an about face after he got caught with Monica Lewinsky.

That's "Breaking"

"I don't oppose all wars...what I do oppose, is a dumb war" ~ Barack Obama

by BlueDiamond on Sat Jul 07, 2007 at 11:28:42 AM EST

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